Betty White's shoulder bag is a time capsule of World War II (2023)

(americanhistory.si.edu)

275 points | by thunderbong 7 days ago

10 comments

  • andyjohnson0 14 hours ago
    Brings to mind this poem

        Handbag
        by Ruth Fainlight
    
        My mother's old leather handbag,
        crowded with letters she carried
        all through the war. The smell
        of my mother's handbag: mints
        and liptsick and Coty powder.
        The look of those letters, softened
        and worn at the edges, opened,
        read, and refolded so often.
        Letters from my father. Odour
        of leather and powder, which ever
        since then has meant womanliness,
        and love, and anguish, and war.
    • acedTrex 3 hours ago
      Random thought, but i've always considered poetry to be the literary medium that is the most difficult to do in a way that resonates with people. To pack so much emotion and meaning into such a limited format requires, to me, an unimaginably skilled grasp of language and emotion.
    • metalman 11 hours ago
      there are generations of these in my keeping right now, going back to the american civil war, my mothers and fathers things, grand parents, great grand parents, great aunts photo collections, momentos and letters, jewlery, old toys, and diplomas, passports, handspun clothing, ancient crockery( no makers marks....),etc, etc arrow points picked by my great uncle john, as he followed a horse drawn plow.....not much else to do back there right!
    • jacquesm 11 hours ago
      Wow. That hits.
  • hoofedear 19 hours ago
    Thanks for sharing this, really fascinating stuff. I’m glad her estate is willing to donate these sorts of things.
  • iaw 5 hours ago
    Not to be crude but everything they mentioned inside the bag was from a serious relationship. I really wonder if the outside of the bag was for the less serious relationships that were still candidates.

    Or was it common for soldiers to give out pieces of their uniform to people they just met out?

    • nineplay 4 hours ago
      I read an article about a similar WWII woman's service and more than anything these women's jobs were to be warm and friendly to a bunch of young scared solders who far from home and wondering if they'd make it back.

      So they'd smile and they'd flirt and they'd charm and they'd dance and maybe the boys would feel less afraid or less homesick and maybe they'd have something to look forward to.

      I'd bet just that was enough for some appreciative solders to give her a pin, if only to remember them by.

      • ashanoko 4 hours ago
        Lubricant for those walking into the void, into a inferno, a calming spirit for those society had selected for slaughter, a GOAT
    • metabagel 5 hours ago
      Seems like she was a charmer.
  • caned 6 hours ago
    I miss the people of her generation. I feel like we could use their perspective, experience and fortitude right now. I sure miss their music too...even though Bird Lives.
    • tracker1 3 hours ago
      I lost both my grandmothers this past 7 years. One about the same age as Betty, the other a few years younger. It's amazing how much insight you can glean from one-off comments in passing conversation you can pick up, or for that matter drop.

      I'm in the middle of Gen-X... kind of the last generation raised "tough" so to speak. Also a generation facing massive ageism, despite knowing and understanding technology as well or better than the younger generations. First generation to make less than that which came before. By the same token, I don't think my generation has a lot of stand-out leaders in its ranks. We've mostly been good by example, but starkly independent.

      All I know is that I miss both of my Grandmothers deeply.

    • righthand 6 hours ago
      Even more reason to support the live local arts in times like these.
      • righthand 3 hours ago
        Okay pathetic downvoters. If the commenter loves music of her generation so much then they should actively look to support local live arts that play that kind of music. But yeah never mind lets only support Big Music Industry instead (or other big entertainment industries).
  • tdeck 14 hours ago
    I'm curious how the soldiers had extra insignias and patches to give away as souvenirs.
    • volkadav 8 hours ago
      I can't say as to what it might've been like 80+ years ago, but years back I was with a friend on a trip through a PX and there was a rotary display (perhaps like you might see used for postcards in other contexts) with rank insignia and other small uniform bits for fairly low prices (single-digit dollars iirc, though this was 20+ years ago). Even if they had to pay out of pocket or deal with an irritable quartermaster, the urge to give a small remember-me-by token to a friendly (and let's be honest, beautiful) face when facing down imminent chaos and barbarity is probably strong. Similarly, I recall hearing of troops throwing their coins to kids along the embarkment route in the UK as they headed to Normandy; after all, where they were going they wouldn't need them.
      • iaw 5 hours ago
        I wonder if that display is because they would give them out not why.
        • ssl-3 4 hours ago
          The display probably exists just because soldiers need that stuff, as a practical matter.

          When they're required to be in uniform, then that's a requirement.

          So if yesterday a uniform got ruined (by whatever mechanism that happens -- shit does happen to clothes sometimes), then today they can scrounge together another one.

          Or they put together a spare one.

          Or whatever.

          (But it certainly is romantic to think that extra uniform parts exist for sale primarily to give as keepsakes to the Betty Whites of the world.)

  • randomdrake 18 hours ago
    Betty White holds such a highly regarded “Hollywood Star” place for me. It was fascinating to see her brought to life through her very ordinary belongings. Fun read.
    • anigbrowl 13 hours ago
      I worked on a film project with her about 15 years ago and I'm happy to report that she was just as great behind the camera as she was in front of it.
    • bcraven 13 hours ago
      Perhaps there were spares in case anyone lost theirs? I don't know enough about the military to say whether that's likely, but as sensible chaps it seems a reasonable assumption.
      • jacquesm 11 hours ago
        Wrong comment to reply to?
  • macintux 20 hours ago
    (2023)
  • WillPostForFood 17 hours ago
    One of the lowest moments in human history, but everyone still dressed well.
  • ares623 15 hours ago
    Why is this top item with like 8 comments
    • jacquesm 11 hours ago
      Because of the # of upvotes.
    • pessimizer 5 hours ago
      More comments than upvotes is actually a negative sign. Upvotes can be (and will be) gamed, but there's a lot of voting ring detection active here.