18 comments

  • jazzpush2 0 minutes ago
    Talking points like this occur when they've shipped nothing and have nothing to show for all the investment.
  • Aurornis 44 minutes ago
    AI coding startup CEOs writing LinkedIn posts trying to normalize huge spending on AI tools? Nothing surprising here.

    > Amos Bar-Joseph, the CEO of Swan AI, a coding agent startup, wrote in a viral LinkedIn post recently

  • rebuilder 45 minutes ago
    It’s like a trucking company bragging about how much fuel they’re using.
  • wizeyone 11 minutes ago
    "Spending more on AI than humans" tells you nothing about whether it works. Cost per-output is the metric and by that I've watched startups do worse than last year, just more expensively.

    Feels like investor signal: "we're AI-forward, mark us up next round"

    • dd8601fn 5 minutes ago
      I’m so far removed from how that stuff works that it often sounds insane to me. Maybe someone who knows can explain it.

      Do the people with money not actually care about making more money? Aren’t they first and foremost concerned with your chances of financial success?

      These people can’t possibly be thinking, “Well they say they spent an absolute shit ton on inference… they’re definitely going to be big winners!” and cutting massive checks, right?

  • heathrow83829 43 minutes ago
    The argument that AI guys are making about the coming mass unemployment goes like this: those companies that are spending on AI rather than humans may have a huge competitive advantage that allows them to take marketshare from human run companies and thus there's less and less demand for human labor.

    But, how many businesses/sectors of the economy actually need to compete for marketshare? we assume it's nearly all of them. if that were the case, we'd see AI taking over much quicker.

    • einszwei 32 minutes ago
      I am very skeptical of the argument that companies are competing with each other on market share. There is arguably a lot more competition between AI companies than in most of the sectors of our economy.
    • reactordev 36 minutes ago
      Without human labor, there’s no human economics. Without human economics, there is no market. So jokes on them.
      • threatofrain 20 minutes ago
        But there are materials and power, something which is more fundamental than the market.
  • jp57 15 minutes ago
    Tokens have replaced LOC as the dumb productivity metric of choice.
    • therobots927 13 minutes ago
      As Ed Zitron would say, the era of the business idiot is upon us.
  • t0mas88 48 minutes ago
    The example company is selling some AI thing. Feels very much like all the blockchain / crypto people using crypto.
  • lousken 45 minutes ago
    Are they running their own models or just channeling money to anthropic or google? (answer is unfortunately the latter)
  • throw0101d 51 minutes ago
    Cloud computing versus on-prem is often about OpEx versus CapEx.

    Is the reported behaviour an example of OpEx/CapEx but with humans?

  • slopinthebag 29 minutes ago
    Reminds me of the Railway CEO bragging that they're spending $300,000 / month on Claude [0], yet their service is getting worse and they're clearly vibe-coding to the point that their SOC2/HIPAA compliance is coming into question. For example they had an issue last month where a breaking change was pushed by a single engineer without any oversight [1].

    How many humans could you pay for $300,000 a month and not have quality & reliability degrade like this?

    0: https://xcancel.com/JustJake/status/2030063630709096483#m

    1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47581721

  • qwertyuiop_ 34 minutes ago
  • 0gs 25 minutes ago
    i particularly like the idea that "a GTM team" is an organic component of running a business which can be impersonated by a grip of agents, as opposed to a convention that developed as a result of needing to pay a bunch of humans too much money to strategically choose to fuck over customers or sellers in the course of handling each unpredictable product adoption development, lest a poor poor pitiful technostructure be ripped apart by making too little, or too much, money. why don't all these tokenmaxxing people focus on making something BETTER
  • bayarearefugee 57 minutes ago
    They don't hate spending (other people's) money.

    They just really, really fucking hate the labor force they view as little more than cattle.

  • therobots927 9 minutes ago
    As someone who was deeply immersed in the crypto / NFT twitter scene in 2021 (yes I was an idiot, moving on…) it bears an uncanny resemblance to the current behavior of AI CEOs and speculators.

    You kind of had to be there to understand. When you’re immersed in that stuff, the rational part of your brain takes a backseat, and the primitive social / visual parts start to run the show. You start to develop incredibly warped perceptions of value entirely driven by the predominant narrative and most importantly, price action. When you see prices go parabolic, you start to interpret that as confirmation of the narrative. This generates a positive feedback loop that can lead to unbelievable and insane valuations. And by extension equally insane narratives.

    What makes it even more uncanny is that a lot of the same actors (tech CEOs, VCs) are involved in this. Make no mistake - they understand how to leverage mania to their advantage. They go on long soliloquies about how game changing this or that asset is, and how anyone not buying in NOW is “NGMI” (not gonna make it).

    This will not end well. I’ll never forget the incredibly insane financial decisions I made - it really felt like being under the influence of a drug.

  • sevenzero 47 minutes ago
    Why would you brag about something that dystopian while also ensuring people know that you don't know how your product looks from the inside?
    • miltonlost 41 minutes ago
      Because some people are evil and only want money and power that comes from owning a billion dollar business
  • juancn 32 minutes ago
    Never outsource your core competency.

    That reliance on third-party AI is a huge risk, just saying.

    • 2OEH8eoCRo0 20 minutes ago
      The allure is too great. First we outsource manufacturing to China and now we outsource knowledge work to AI. Where does this end?
  • alexgotoi 59 minutes ago
    This is the worst flex ever, its like going in a vacation and posting about how expensive the flight ticket was.
  • akomtu 53 minutes ago
    2046: The planetary AI brags it spends more natural resources on machines than it spends on humans.

    2126: AI brags that it's reached 100% efficiency in Earth utilization after it's eliminated all organic life.

    • paulkrush 44 minutes ago
      Other AIs are laughing at this flex as their Dyson sphere projects are already set into motion.