The Cypherpunk Library

(cypherpunkbooks.com)

170 points | by yu3zhou4 4 hours ago

16 comments

  • phyzix5761 1 hour ago
    If anyone is curious, like me, what Cypherpunk means:

    "A cypherpunk is one who advocates the widespread use of strong cryptography and privacy-enhancing technologies as a means of effecting social and political change."[0]

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk

    • slybot 1 hour ago
      Funnily, this small library features works outside of it's domain, including a manifesto from PKK terrorist organization leader..
      • danubis 33 minutes ago
        Did you read it?
  • raffael_de 2 hours ago
    Privacy for the citizens and transparency for the government. Sadly, all democracies are right in the middle of establishing the polar opposite.
    • jesterson 15 minutes ago
      Middle? We are way past the point
  • tangerine67g 4 hours ago
    nice work, interesting page

    I don't think you need a pretty landing page and the content of https://www.cypherpunkbooks.com/collection

    could directly live under

    https://www.cypherpunkbooks.com/

    it's a website with information and I really want to see the collection and information insteda of just a single headline with an animation

    • totetsu 3 hours ago
      if it wasnt for needless landing pages where would we ever get a chance to use all the cool animation features browsers have accreted over the last 20 years.
      • ycombinete 2 hours ago
        What is this very mild cyberpunk motif doing in my cyberpunk library website?
      • aa-jv 3 hours ago
        Even worse than a redundant/useless landing page, is a page with an invalid certificate. Nothing nopes me out harder than having to tell my IT-governed browser to ignore the site operators faulty administration of their domain ..
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  • kriro 1 hour ago
    I've been a bit out of the loop with Austrian Economics (last re-read of Human Action was ~15 years ago). I'm very well read in it and enjoy the aesthetics of the theories and the history of thought books but got very tired of the online flame-wars and the political side in general (both the pro- and anti-Austrians). So Praxeology of Privacy sounds like an interesting read, I'll give it a go this year.
  • my_throwaway23 1 hour ago
    Side note: I love literature, but I can not for the life of me understand how anyone can consider non-fiction enjoyable to read. Informative, perhaps interesting, yes, but enjoyable? Heck no. Take me as far away from reality as possible.

    Though, of course, to each their own.

    • chimpanzee2 1 hour ago
      Interesting– Conversely, that is exactly how I feel about reading fiction.

      To me, how can you possibly enjoy reading something some other person simply ... made up? Like an elaborate lie?

      Contrarily, non-fiction tells it how it happened within the very reality I myself live in, subject to the same laws of nature and real psychology, and therefore, and only therefore, able to teach me something about real life on this earth.

      • dfansteel 15 minutes ago
        Both are valuable and present in a well rounded life. The Diary of Anne Frank and Those Who Leave Omelas cause you to question life in different ways.
      • my_throwaway23 1 hour ago
        Perhaps unrelated, but that reminds me of the inevitable avalanche of identical replies to every submission on aphantasia, all proclaiming that, no, they do indeed find it odd that there are people who can visualise internally.

        Do you enjoy watching movies or series, reading comics? Going to the theatre (as in - not movies, but actual theatre)?

        Edit: Do note that I wrote enjoy - I've certainly read my fair share of non-fiction. A classic Agatha Christy murder-mystery, while set in the real world, is anything but realistic.

        • chimpanzee2 46 minutes ago
          > Do you enjoy watching movies or series, reading comics? Going to the theatre (as in - not movies, but actual theatre)?

          I really for the most part do not. I've not even seen any of the big oscar winning pieces everyone keeps talking about.

          As I said to another commentator on here as well:

          Without any disdain, I cannot bring myself to watch hours of another person's fantasy, when I could instead be shaping my own reality.

          • exhumet 13 minutes ago
            but often the fantasy does help shape your reality and identity. an author finding a way to vocalize and make a concept or feeling tangible like its coming out of the mouth of someone that you can respect or despise with such strong emotion is extremely powerful. and sure you can get that from nonfiction (which i also do love some of the driest science texts lol) but there is something amazing about seeing how something could play out, or how it would be to experience this reality. maybe you just havent found what clicks for you yet or what perfectly speaks to you and maybe you never will, but its not worth writing it ALL off. for me at least it's the emotional resonance you can find with fiction that makes it all the more worth it. Do i agree with Char Aznable no, do i agree with Amuro Ray? yes. do i find merit and incompatibilities in both of their ideologies? yes. has it helped me see the kind of world that the creator wishes to envision and wants to make us question for ourselves? yes. its the connection. i just love it.

            and dont write off comics either, there is some genuine phenomenally emotional works in that medium.

      • nilamo 1 hour ago
        I have no understanding of your viewpoint. I wish I did, it sounds interesting. I do like a Crafting Interpreters or Mythical Man Month...

        But I don't understand how those could not only be held to the same level as The Hobbit, but that you seem incapable of even reading Animal Farm.

        Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

        • chimpanzee2 55 minutes ago
          > Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

          Nope, I truly live under a rock when it comes to those.

          I've been wanting to watch the big ones (Hobbit, LotR, ...), but – and I say this with no disdain:

          I simply cannot get myself to consume hours upon hours of somebody else's fantasy – when I could instead be shaping my own reality.

          • bazoom42 9 minutes ago
            This is fascinating. Do you enjoy music?
      • zorked 1 hour ago

          "non-fiction tells it how it happened"
        
        oh sweet summer child :)
    • lkm0 34 minutes ago
      If you can read French, I recommend Saint-Simon as the quintessential counter-example. In English, I found "Why I Write" by Orwell very entertaining.
    • my_throwaway24 1 hour ago
      Please do not take this question any particular way, I'm just curious:

      Do you happen to be female?

    • speed_spread 1 hour ago
      You have to make your own stories as you go along. Plug that fresh knowledge into hypothetical scenarios from stuff you've learned before.
    • contingencies 1 hour ago
      If you don't enjoy learning you may be in a minority here.
      • my_throwaway23 1 hour ago
        It sounds almost as if you're saying learning is only possible by reading, which, I would argue, most of the history of humanity proves false.
      • tommica 1 hour ago
        Stupid take, one can learn from fiction too.
        • my_throwaway23 1 hour ago
          And not everything's about learning. You are allowed to do things strictly because you enjoy doing them, with no ulterior motive.
  • bitbasher 40 minutes ago
    A lot of writing by Timothy May. A lot of it is a good read.

    It's sad knowing how his mental health deteriorated over the years and he spiraled out the way he did.

  • Yokohiii 2 hours ago
    > THE CYPHERNOMICON

    I've peeked into that one. I've expected those people to be radical to some degree, but I didn't expect they write it down so clearly.

    This writing wants to see the collapse of governments and democracy. I find it painful to read such radical statements. So I didn't get very deep.

    But I am riddled how those people think a collapse of that scale will work out in their favor. They are deeply reliant on technology and the first thing to happen on collapse, is that many lights turn off.

    • Cthulhu_ 2 hours ago
      This is the thing I don't understand about (a superficial interpretation of) anarchists; while governments are often not ideal, a lack of one wouldn't be better. And trusting people to self-organize is idealistic, but in practice it'd mean we go back to tribalism and "might makes right".
      • Cassell 49 minutes ago
        The idea is it wouldn’t work on trust, each element would be bounded by forces other than a single structure; getting to the state in which self-regulation is possible is the difficult, or maybe impossible, part. When in the regulated state, power grabs wouldn’t work.
      • skinfaxi 1 hour ago
        We have a bunch of temporarily embarrassed tribal warlords among us.
      • some_furry 52 minutes ago
        > This is the thing I don't understand about (a superficial interpretation of) anarchists

        I think most superficial interpretations of anarchists are based on edgy LARPers rather than real political ideology.

        Fun fact: Anarchy means "without rulers", not "without laws" or "without social order". There's a wide diversity of political thought under this umbrella, but the key underlying common denominator is (on some level, at least) a rejection of hierarchy (and often a rejection of capital).

        Though it's fun to imagine what the philosophical and political beliefs that underpin a colloquial understanding of the word might look like, the answer is usually simply: Teenagers.

        • nyc_data_geek1 26 minutes ago
          Maybe don't be so dismissive of that which you lack a thorough understanding.

          Recommend reading "Against the State" by James Stout, wherein he describes history of various Anarchist societies, including Barcelona during Spanish fascism, Myanmar where they are very successfully fighting the junta which wrested control from their civilian government, and Rojava where he personally visited and gives a firsthand account.

      • jvanderbot 1 hour ago
        There was this really good short story illustrating this: (edited to add: "Cloak of Anarchy", Larry Niven, thx to below).

        A park where anything goes ... because sentry robots keep the peace. When the robots break, things get scary quickly.

        I've become convinced that a well-governed society is the perfect foundation for a limited anarchist commune set up on property legally purchased. Libertarian, essentially. Or Amish.

      • kibwen 1 hour ago
        I get the impression that even the definition of "anarchy" itself is subject to anarchy, with lots of disagreements and infighting. The more even-keeled anarchists that I've seen stress that they're not against hierarchies, only involuntary hierarchies, with the idea being that individuals should be welcome to organize themselves into hierarchies into which they delegate power, as long as that power can be revoked at any time, which sounds like a reasonable proposition. And then there's crypto-anarchism, which is just right-libertarianism in a Scooby Doo monster mask.
      • kakacik 44 minutes ago
        Its not a rational position, rather a kneejerk emotional one. Various other extreme positions share the same setup (nazism, communism etc).

        Try talking to some anarchists and its pretty obvious their ideas don't go deep nor can stand well some questioning. Once you are in fairy land, anything may seem like a good idea to tackle ie some injustice.

      • SmirkingRevenge 59 minutes ago
        It's the anti-establishment impulse taken to extremes. Anarchism is one of the niche destinations of that mindset. Another, ironically, is full blown communism.

        What's sort of funny, is how all these seemingly polar-opposite anti-establishment flavors are actually far closer to each other than they are to mainstream political left or right.

        The anti-establishment part ends up overriding everything else

        That's how you end up with Bernie/Trump crossover voters

  • agentbraker 24 minutes ago
    Great work! Open access to knowledge is always a win.
  • ramon156 3 hours ago
    the hover animation on the books in `/` slows down my Firefox

    Cool project nonetheless! Enjoyed browsing through the options

    • sen 2 hours ago
      If a site like this isn’t using your browser to mine bitcoin I’d be incredibly disappointed.
  • unprovable 4 hours ago
    Nice - can't wait to see how it grows!
  • proxysna 4 hours ago
    Looks really nice, but 10 fps in Firefox.
    • yreg 2 hours ago
      Buttery smooth for me in Firefox (mac)
  • juleiie 3 hours ago
    Everything on the Internet is public domain, up for grabs

    In the past you could argue about legal stuff but now the LLM training companies have proven that beyond all doubt, it is not only possible but even legal to use any Internet material as you see fit.

    • sdellis 8 minutes ago
      I really hope this is sarcasm.
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