Open-weight promise seems nice, but 1) I've seen people commenting that these hopes amounted to nothing for some previous releases (no idea which promises were made though); and 2) if the backbone is released as Dev, what will be missing? I can't easily tell from the post.
dev variants are usually cfg distilled which means that directly finetuning isn’t as effective. In the past, for the flux2 klein models,they released base versions that are not distilled. So it will probably be a while before you can fully take advantage of the open weights.
The term "world model" as it was once used in model-based RL can now apparently refer to anything as silly as linear regression. Then again, the RL folks probably borrowed the term from behavioral scientists before them. It's probably best to simply accept this :/
A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike.
It would be interesting to see some time-series sentiment analysis of HN. Subjectively it feels like there's much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong.
> time-series sentiment analysis [...] much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong
Depending on the members, there certainly is. Put aside the "dismissers", those who have a habit or a hormonal reliance to cast a "meh". Those who objectively assess according to the input that the development of facts provide may bend their "apparent mood" accordingly. This may be more evident here because in brighter times we may be more inclined to post and submit about more idle intellectual beauty ("complications in ancient clocks"), and in darker times it makes sense that we are more focused on the problems.
It's possible it's because some people care about the consequences of what we're doing as a society beyond the mindless satiation of curiosity. Nothing wrong with curiosity in my books by the way, but I do think isolating it the way we've done in the technical fields is a dangerous and irresponsible attitude.
Flux 2 Dev Klein has practically been the best you could use on most commercial hardware so I really hope Flux 3 has a comparable updated open-weights model to it. if not it'd be a great loss to most hobbyists.
I have a feeling open-weight models ought to be outperforming proprietary ones by now, but that still hasn’t happened. So far, Nano Banana and GPT-2 Image seem to be the best in class, and Flux still isn’t crossing that quality bar.
> It jointly learns from images, videos, and audio within a unified architecture, because what it needs to learn is not any one of these elements in isolation.
I'm confused, videos contain images and audio ...?
That's most likely a disagreement on terms. In the media world, video is only the moving images, not audio. This is separate from images, that are meant to be still images.
It's more a comment about the feature detection I think; all image, video and audio input contribute to the same weights/activations that can produce image, video and audio output.
i don't get why they are investing money on image/video gen. All generations i have see looked blurry, lacking in fine details and missing the artistic touch (lacks meaning? lifeless?)
Open-weight plans are near the bottom (Launch section):
- Video and audio generation and editing through APIs and private weight access. (“FLUX 3 Video”)
- Action prediction through selected research and commercial partners, beginning with mimic robotics (“FLUX-mimic and FLUX 3 Action”)
- Image synthesis and editing through APIs and private weight access. (“FLUX 3 Image”)
- Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action prediction. (“FLUX 3 Dev”)
Well, unified multimodal intelligence is the only way we will get to The Terminator, which seems to be the goal now of Silicon Valley and every Nation State with a military budget, so have at.
The fact that people keep developing this technology shows that the true problem is not that machines are likely to become intelligent, but that people have already become machines - unthinking and without any care to the future whatsoever.
Sorry because pointing this is a bit tired by now, but reading already the first two paragraph thete is this unmistakable stench of LLM slop writing. Immediately disengaged.
"Horseless slop trained on centuries of coachmakers' and blacksmiths' work. It'll never replace a real horse."
- Hacker News commenter in 1889 criticizing the automobile
imagine spending nine figures training a model to learn that the sound has to match the impact. my 8-month-old figured that out by dropping a spoon on the floor twice.
> Over the next few weeks and months, we will make the following capabilities available
> Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action prediction. (“FLUX 3 Dev”)
> We will also release more technical details on the underlying approach.
- Frivolous use of the term World Model.
- Claims 20 seconds of video, shows only jumpcuts.
Coming soon!
The term "world model" as it was once used in model-based RL can now apparently refer to anything as silly as linear regression. Then again, the RL folks probably borrowed the term from behavioral scientists before them. It's probably best to simply accept this :/
A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike.
It's from epistemology. It is not there to refer to the subjective but to the objective.
> A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike
For instance?
But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...
I see nothing here but them TELLING us how great it is. Not showing us.
Have you watched the 46s video full screen on a monitor and not marvelled at the incredible 4K detail of the FPV motorcycle racing clip?
Depending on the members, there certainly is. Put aside the "dismissers", those who have a habit or a hormonal reliance to cast a "meh". Those who objectively assess according to the input that the development of facts provide may bend their "apparent mood" accordingly. This may be more evident here because in brighter times we may be more inclined to post and submit about more idle intellectual beauty ("complications in ancient clocks"), and in darker times it makes sense that we are more focused on the problems.
I'm confused, videos contain images and audio ...?
Maybe they presume that after a series of "good enough to some" they may be getting near the Real Thing?
> our mission to develop real-world visual intelligence
Visual is mono-modal, isn't it?