8 comments

  • NitpickLawyer 1 hour ago
    Linking to a github repo for a binary release (no source code related to the agent that I could see) is a bit iffy IMO. You should clarify your intentions or link to something else. Might confuse folks.
    • OleksandrC 43 minutes ago
      I will leave this here: https://usehax.dev/ GitHub repo: https://github.com/OleksandrChekhovskyi/hax

      This is a coding agent implementation I am working on, which delivers what this promises (at least on the "lean" part), except it's actually fully open source, and even more lean (few MBs of runtime memory usage).

      MIT-licensed, written in C, multi-provider / multi-model, minimalist approach to system prompt and tools (think kinda like pi, but with a bit more "batteries included", like subagents and background tasks out of the box), polished presentation, inspectable (usable transcript view), etc.

      • ubermon 33 minutes ago
        nice, good to see more contributor in this space
    • ubermon 33 minutes ago
      we put it in the repo README, will add migrate more into public repo as soon as possible.
    • adastra22 48 minutes ago
      Linking to a binary is iffy from a security perspective. Linking to a GitHub repository is exactly what HN should do.
  • swrrt 2 hours ago
    How good is it to work on building games, compared to existing agents? I am building my own game?
    • 1bpp 1 hour ago
      You aren't building your own game if you have a chatbot do it for you.
      • marssaxman 34 minutes ago
        A classic tale from the music production world comes to mind:

        "I thought using loops was cheating, so I programmed my own using samples. I then thought using samples was cheating, so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating, so I learned to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating, so I learned to make my own. I then thought using premade skins was cheating, so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating, but I’m not sure where to go from here. I haven’t made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all."

        • throwlifeaway 25 minutes ago
          Does prompting an AI music generation service count as making your own songs? I noticed you left that one out of your parable.
          • marssaxman 12 minutes ago
            Does snapping a photo with a camera count as making your own painting?
            • Seich 4 minutes ago
              We don’t call the end result a painting though, we call it a photo. Theres probably some value to distinguishing between them.
          • bitpush 22 minutes ago
            If figma draws you a gradient, are you really a designer?
            • 1bpp 12 minutes ago
              Probably yes; If Figma is deciding for you where the gradient goes, what colors it is, and what its purpose in the design is, then no.
        • 1bpp 19 minutes ago
          No, it's using FL Studio's random sequence generator with a general MIDI instrument, exporting it, then saying it's a ballad you just composed. Or paying a ghostwriter to write on a topic, then saying it's a novel you just wrote.
      • stronglikedan 1 hour ago
        That's like saying you aren't building a house if you use a hammer to drive nails instead of your hand. AI is just a tool like any other, and you use it to build things like you would any other tool.
        • ThrowawayR2 46 minutes ago
          A far more accurate analogy would be people saying someone didn't write a book if they hired a ghostwriter, which is generally acknowledged to be true. LLMs are much closer to being a ghostwriter than they are to an inert, non-powered hand tool.
        • bigfishrunning 1 hour ago
          I'd say it's closer to a Roomba then a hammer -- if you just let a Roomba run around your living room, can you say you vacuumed?
          • simlevesque 46 minutes ago
            Well, you tell your Roomba "clean the floor" but you don't ask an AI "make a game". You give it very specific instructions.
            • finghin 40 minutes ago
              Specific compared to writing procedural code> Barely even by analogy, IMO

              One could even argue what defines AI instructability is heuristics as opposed to specifics

        • schnevets 53 minutes ago
          I wouldn't even compare it to a tool. People frequently "build their own house" where they sub out 75% of the skilled labor and act as a General Contractor/glorified gopher.

          And you won't get purity tests from the layperson: in the end, you're responsible for the build quality so if you tirelessly labor/oversee those teams you're considered capable; if it ends sub-par, then you're a stooge.

        • throw_m239339 1 hour ago
          > That's like saying you aren't building a house if you use a hammer to drive nails instead of your hand. AI is just a tool like any other, and you use it to build things like you would any other tool.

          A coding agent is more like a carpenter, a mason, an electrician,... rather than a hammer in that case.

      • jatora 1 hour ago
        This is such a horrible cringe and bad faith take.
      • perching_aix 1 hour ago
        Same idea that sends people down needless game engine development / procrastination rabbit holes.
    • ubermon 1 hour ago
      we have a detailed launch thread explaining and show case exactly this! https://x.com/NoCommas/status/2086835536598351955
  • jhgik798 1 hour ago
    no source code
    • ubermon 34 minutes ago
      partially, we indent to progressively add source code component to it. the crates/ is sync from the active repo in realtime.
  • plainviewinstru 40 minutes ago
    this would go very hard with a lightweight gui
    • ubermon 35 minutes ago
      yes, the goal is to perfect the `ante serve` so it is easy to build gui. We are building one internally to test the protocol version
  • _pdp_ 1 hour ago
    Considering that ripgrep, git, and, you know, other dev tools are part of the toolbox, then why ship them inside this executable? And, furthermore, if you ship them, then why stop there?
    • ubermon 29 minutes ago
      so it is more for being self contained and works out of box if being deployed in a bare linux environment. we tried shell out to `rg` it didn't work very well and instead spending time handling the args parsing and jugging string output, we decided to spend time on building Grep natively for agent. It is just a start~

      as for why stop here yep, the goal is to be able to find the best sweet spot in being self contained v.s. all-in-one bloat ware. for example, we still use a bundled `tmux` skill for the orchestration.

  • ubermon 2 hours ago
    Hi HN, I'm Mohan from Antigma Labs. Ante is a coding agent that ships as one self-contained ~15MB binary: the TUI, an embedded ripgrep, local PDF/OCR, and a natively managed llama.cpp engine are all inside. No runtime dependencies, no node_modules, no account.

    - Ante installs a pinned, checksum-verified official llama.cpp build matched to your machine (Metal on Apple silicon; CUDA, Vulkan, or CPU on Linux) and handles upgrades when the pin changes. - It discovers GGUF files already on disk (~/.ante/models, the llama.cpp and Hugging Face caches), attaches to llama servers already running on local ports, and estimates RAM/VRAM from model size and context window before anything loads. - `ante --offline-model /path/to/model.gguf "prompt"` boots the server, runs the session, and shuts it down. `/offline-mode` does the same interactively; `ante serve --offline-model` loads a model once for many clients. - No API key, no account. Once the model is on disk, inference needs no network at all; set ANTE_TELEMETRY=off and no telemetry is exported either.

    On capability, we'd rather publish the number than oversell: we benchmark local models with the same harness and auditable runs as frontier ones, and Qwen3.6 27B (a 17 GB download) scores 56.2% on Terminal-Bench 2.1 across 445 trials (live results: https://antigma.ai/eval). That's a real gap from frontier models. The design bet is that you mix: hosted providers and local live in the same catalog, `/providers` switches mid-session, so sensitive repos or high-volume work go local and hard problems go frontier.

    Hosted models work with your own keys or subscription. But nothing about trying Ante requires signing up for anything: download the binary, point it at a GGUF.

    Offline mode is under active development and has rough edges with the overview at https://ante.run/local/overview. I'll be in the comments.

    • wwww23 4 minutes ago
      Many people have slow computers, but for agent it is no problem. Only run LLM slow too.
    • nazgulsenpai 1 hour ago
      Not sure why this was dead but I vouched. It would be nice if telemetry was opt-in, otherwise this looks awesome and can't wait to try it!
      • ubermon 36 minutes ago
        will add those soon!
    • adastra22 45 minutes ago
      Where is the source code?
      • ubermon 28 minutes ago
        for now only some of core crates is migrated, will do so progressively
    • niutech 59 minutes ago
      Why not make it Actually Portable Executable using Cosmopolitan Libc, like Llamafile, to make it run on Windows/Linux/MacOS? Why don't you support Windows with CUDA?
      • ubermon 21 minutes ago
        even with power of AI, we are mere human and still slow. Adding this to backlog.
    • majorchord 1 hour ago
      Opt-out telemetry is a hard no for me, sorry.
      • nextblock 36 minutes ago
        Agreed! When a tool is explicitely marketed for offline use, opt-out telemetry feels especially contradictory. Should Definitely be opt-in by default...
      • stronglikedan 1 hour ago
        Right? How hard is it to just ask a single opt-in question during installation. Opt-out just seems lazy, especially if I have to dig though configs to get to it.
      • ubermon 27 minutes ago
        feedback received, it was carry over from the preview dev build.
  • h2hprotocol 10 minutes ago
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