Don't Wordle

(dontwordle.com)

133 points | by Hbruz0 2 hours ago

25 comments

  • amiga386 1 hour ago
    12935 -> TIZZY (5625) -> OXBOW (2674) -> GRUFF (858) -> MAMMA (195) and I'll let you guess the rest but my next choice left 43 words, and I survived with only 4 words possible.

    The rules not letting use a letter you know isn't in the target word drastically cuts your choices, your best bet is to use as few unique letters per word as you can, and as uncommon letters as you can, but as all normal words need vowels you'll be forced into only picking a vowel from the target word soon enough. Try to find letters that are in the word as late as possible so you're not locked into having to use them.

    Once you are forced to use letters from the target word, avoid placing them in the right place. Sadly there's a rule not letting you use a known letter more than once in a word (once A is known, you can't write ALPHA), and a rule for not letting you put a known letter in a place you know it doesn't go (so after MAMMA, you can't have HALVE because you know there's not an A in second place, nor ALPHA because you know there's not an A in fifth place).

    • amiga386 25 minutes ago
      The best I could do with today's word, and the wordlist, but no scoring function to minmax the rules:

      - FUFFY (8159) (shipping of Faith and Buffy from Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

      - IMMIX (4544) (to mix or blend)

      - ZOCCO (2142) (low plinth, from the Italian word for sock)

      - QAJAQ (530) (alternative form of kayak)

      - TRATT (155) (clipping of trattoria)

      - KHAPH (7) (alternative form of khaf, the 11th letter of the Hebrew alphabet)

      I get the feeling that if this game had 7 steps instead of 6, it would almost always be impossible.

  • Angostura 1 hour ago
    If you enjoy clicking things you can spend hours in their cookie consent boxes untickinv the several hundred individual ‘legitimate interest’ tick boxes for individual vendors
    • coldpie 1 minute ago
      It's your browser's job to protect you, not the website's. Just dismiss the banner however and clear the site's cookies when you're done. On Firefox, you can clear your cookies in 3 clicks, use the little button on the left side of the URL bar and hit "Clear cookies and site data" and then Confirm.
    • wlesieutre 7 minutes ago
      Only hundreds? I ended up on Thingiverse by accident yesterday it’s

        RESPONSIBLE USE OF YOUR DATA
        We and our 1022 partners…
    • thi2 39 minutes ago
      No reject all button means a closed tab.
    • gear54rus 1 hour ago
      Ublock seems to work with this one.
      • dec0dedab0de 0 minutes ago
        Yeah, I didn't even see the popup
  • senfiaj 3 minutes ago
    You can use hints, after that I could find the right sequence

    trash smash abash gnash quash clash

  • flexie 1 hour ago
    We are asked to allow hundreds of cookies, not just a few, to play the game.
    • Madmallard 1 hour ago
      yes top of hacker news and loaded with tracking information and a popular game so likely to garner lots of attention
      • inigyou 1 hour ago
        What website isn't?

        The most shocking part is that Americans care about appearing to follow GDPR, for some reason. For example, HN blatantly doesn't comply and doesn't plan to.

        • VonGallifrey 57 minutes ago
          > HN blatantly doesn't comply

          What about HN doesn't comply with GDPR? It does not seem to have tracking cookies.

          • masfuerte 31 minutes ago
            Apparently they won't delete your old comments if you ask them to.

            I'm someone who goes to somewhat absurd lengths to avoid tracking, but HN's policy doesn't bother me because I know the data exists elsewhere and deleting it here won't make a jot of difference to that.

            • tialaramex 22 minutes ago
              I'm not entirely sure they'd need to comply. The question is what the purpose of the data being collected was, but seems to me that if you emphasise the whole idea that this is a conversation (which HN does in several ways) then actually "We don't delete comments" is defensible.

              If I'm reading a thread about a problem I'm having in a video game on Reddit and it goes "This is very frustrating because I can't get a rabbit to teleport", then a reply which is [deleted] and then "Oh! Thanks so much, I'd never have figured that out" I'm in exactly the same place as the original poster, but now with the additional agony of knowing that there was a correct solution and that it's hard to figure out what it is - ugh.

              • inigyou 19 minutes ago
                Right to be forgotten is part of GDPR even though most people only think of cookie banners. There's no one-click export, either.
  • steinvakt2 13 minutes ago
    Cool. Surprisingly difficult. I made an art game inspired by wordle some years ago. My dad and I still play it daily. https://artle.eu
  • HelloUsername 15 minutes ago
    (Un)related; does anyone know where to play the non-NYT Wordle version?
    • teach 4 minutes ago
      The original version of Wordle was purchased by the NYT and then Josh took down his copy, so there's no canonical "non-NYT" version anymore.
  • rylando 1 hour ago
    Well this sure makes Wordle feel a lot easier!
    • whoisnjogu 1 hour ago
      and I still can't believe it took me more than 3 guesses
  • hollylawly 1 hour ago
    Of course the one time I get it in 2 guesses is in this version
    • bonzini 1 hour ago
      Got to the sixth attempt, 2 words remaining, of course I picked the right one.
      • stavros 1 hour ago
        I picked the right one out of twelve.
        • amiga386 59 minutes ago
          Having 12 options possible on the last guess is actually very good.
          • stavros 56 minutes ago
            It was only my last guess because I lost :P I had three remaining.
  • grocery_stores 1 hour ago
    One thing I find odd about the rules: it forces you to respect what you've learned via green or yellow tiles, but not gray tiles. The spirit of the rules suggests once you've learned a letter is not in the word, you shouldn't be able to reuse that letter. Perhaps that would simply make the game too difficult, though.
    • kevsim 1 hour ago
      It didn't let me guess things that had already been eliminated with gray tiles.
    • pbronez 1 hour ago
      It does - you can type them but it rejects the word when you submit it.

      I think this DOES make it way harder than regular wordle.

    • ChrisRR 1 hour ago
      Isn't that rule 3?
  • lucideer 1 hour ago
    I tried playing this as if its wordle & got it in 2 guesses. How do they do this ??? That's next to impossible in wordle & the probalities seem like they should be the same?
    • f2474l 20 minutes ago
      The game is cheating I guess
  • huhtenberg 1 hour ago
    Some of the suggested plays for yellow EA and green H after the first guess:

        ALMEH
        BEKAH
        BELAH
        DEASH
        OBEAH
        SELAH
    
    Not much fun to play with a dictionary like this :-/
    • pimlottc 41 minutes ago
      And yet it didn’t accept JORTS :/
      • MarkusQ 26 minutes ago
        I can respect finding JORTS unacceptable.
  • netsharc 1 hour ago
    I'd enjoy it if the rules with some graphics are displayed near the game, for newbies.

    e.g. show a word with some green letters and that they have to be in the same spot in the other word. e.g. FUBAR with green B -> __B__

    FUBAR with yellow R -> RRRR_ (with gray background and white R to signify "has to be placed somewhere here")

    And for the gray letters, I guess.. show them next to the _____ in a trash can?

  • theanonymousone 1 hour ago
    I hope NYT lawyers don't come for you. They did for many other variants of this. Maybe reconsider the name?
    • lugao 1 hour ago
      Do they go after people using similar names or just any game with similar mechanics?
      • mh- 19 minutes ago
        Just the trademark, that I've seen.
  • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
    This is amazing, and incredible difficult (or I'm terrible), after ~10 minutes I can't even get in a third guess!
  • MDTHLN 1 hour ago
    This is quite fun, but I can’t believe the amount of cookies it wants to set!
    • whstl 1 hour ago
      I had my ad blocker turned off temporarily and it was a strange experience.
  • Folcon 1 hour ago
    Is the word list complete?

    I tried WEIRD and it rejected it as not a word

    • zabzonk 1 hour ago
      that "i before e except after c" rule often gets taken too seriously
      • bigfishrunning 1 hour ago
        i think it's kind of beautiful that weird is a weird word
        • hnlmorg 36 minutes ago
          Isn’t there more exceptions to that rule than there are examples where it’s correct?
          • MarkusQ 23 minutes ago
            Yep, at least on most static word lists.

            It's a fun exercise to try and improve the rule by extending it compared to just switching to "E before I".

      • LuminousWzrd 1 hour ago
        Oh I've messed that one up before
  • luciana1u 1 hour ago
    finally a game that respects that I already know all five-letter words and would rather be told not to use them
  • intrasight 1 hour ago
    What does "you have already eliminated the letter T" mean?
    • codechicago277 1 hour ago
      You already guessed a word that had a “T” in it, and the game confirmed that “T” is not in the word. So you can’t guess another word with a “T”.
    • astura 1 hour ago
      The word doesn't contain the letter T.

      It means you previously guessed a word with T in it and it wasn't marked at green (correct spot) or yellow (word contains letter in different spot).

  • lugao 1 hour ago
    It is too hard to be fun :P
  • mda 1 hour ago
    I see that terrible cookie permission window (62 legitimate interest) and I close the window,
  • phren0logy 1 hour ago
    Be happ-ole? (Insert whistling)
  • massimodeluisa 1 hour ago
    Ahahhaha funny! xD
  • GNR_Radio 1 hour ago
    [dead]
  • burnt-resistor 1 hour ago
    The goal isn't explained clearly and simply enough.
    • pasc1878 1 hour ago
      The goal is to get mony from clicks in "legitimate interest"

      What is legitimate here. You and the site why does any third party have an interest?

  • tantalor 47 minutes ago
    (meta comment) the chit chat about cookies is off topic and pointless