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  • brynet 3 hours ago
    OpenBSD 7.9 was already on the 6.18.y longterm support version for the drm(4) drivers, Jonathan Gray (jsg@) completed the update back in March, sponsored by the OpenBSD Foundation.

    https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=177310343311915&w=2

    I just wanted to highlight Jonathan's continued efforts backporting updates in my usual "HYPE" post series for the upcoming OpenBSD 8.0 release.

    (I'm the author of the mastodon post that was shared.)

  • alberth 2 hours ago
    Note that OpenBSD is on 7.9 now and all releases are possible breaking changes.

    They release every six month and increment by 0.1. And after 0.9 they rollover to the next whole number.

    So don’t think of version “8.0” as a major release per se, since OpenBSD is a fixed schedule release - not a Major.Minor release.

    • coherentpony 18 minutes ago
      > OpenBSD is on 7.9 now and all releases are possible breaking changes.

      > don’t think of version “8.0” as a major release per se, since OpenBSD is a fixed schedule release - not a Major.Minor release

      Are these two statements a contradiction?

      Thinking out loud, maybe the spirit of your comment is, “Every OpenBSD release is possibly a breaking change; the version numbers don’t mean anything.” Otherwise, I don’t see how it’s relevant to mention the current release ends in .9, then explain how the next version is constructed.

      Please help me understand. I truly have no sense of how things work in OpenBSD land. The spirit of my comment here is entirely in good faith, just trying to learn.

  • Gracana 2 hours ago
    How does GPL code get ported to BSD?
  • doener 4 hours ago
  • sippingabonedry 3 hours ago
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    • jon128 2 hours ago
      The major contention some with wisdom have with ai is it makes the genuine 10x and 20x engineers into 80x engineers and 250x engineers but it makes the mediocre engineers exponentially worse.

      We're also collectively contending with more than one generation of contributors who don't know how what they started with got to where it was and carry a mindset of "this is how things should be done", and then we reach moments where a lot of the smarter people collectively talked enough about to realize: oh, the rest of us built three decades on stupidity of what was called OOP (and not real OOP according to some) because categorization meme caught on and was taught in school as the way.

      There does need to be heterogeneity where some corners refrain from taking what could be irreversible steps.

      Renovation of the core parts of the BSDs, illumos, and Linux with CompCert C or something like it using LLMs, done by the right hands, will be interesting.

      I would love to see ZFS on OpenBSD ; if only the necessary talent wasn't preoccupied.

  • oblio 3 hours ago
    There are parts of me that don't want to say this but will LLMs actually help Linux and smaller OSes by accelerating reverse engineering hardware that doesn't have open/good enough specs? Will we reach a point where hibernate works reliably on Linux? Weird hardware can be used well by FreeBSD?
    • asveikau 2 hours ago
      This has nothing to do with LLMs. The *BSDs have been porting Linux video drivers for years. This is just the status quo of how video drivers on OpenBSD work.
    • doublerabbit 3 hours ago
      I'm very happy and lucky to have to a modern laptop where everything just works including S3 hibernation in FreeBSD.

      MSI Modern 15

    • jon128 2 hours ago
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