“Multi-WAN network toolkit — connect up to 5 uplinks. Configure dynamic routing, failover, load balancing, and firewall rules. Use it simultaneously as a Wi‑Fi hotspot and client. Tunnel traffic through a VPN and multiple gateways.
”
I haven’t been able to find an off the shelf device that provides this. I travel a fair bit and when sitting in an airport mobile hotspotting is often unusably slow. If I can use this to securely connect to public unencrypted wifi, it will make travelling that little bit easier
I've used a GL.iNet Slate 7 to bring my home network with me when I travel. It can connect to the internet through WiFi, ethernet, or tethered to a cell phone. The Mudi 7 does the same kind of thing, except it comes with a battery and a cell radio, too.
I’ve got an older Slate model and I wouldn’t dream of traveling without it:
* Dumb hotel policy wants you to pay a fee for every WiFi device you connect? Fine. I’m only connecting one.
* VPN back to my house for every device, including a Switch or ereader.
* Last weekend we were in a hotel with no LTE coverage and crummy WiFi. The Slate connected to the hotel WiFi much better than my phone or laptop could. It has better antennas and probably more power because it’s not optimized for battery life. My phone on WiFi: 2800ms pings (!!!). My phone connected to the Slate connected to the WiFi? 15ms.
It’s high on my packing list. I’ll never travel without one again.
I've had a question for a long time: I've been involved with infra most of my life but not strictly networking. Given the vulnerabilities, AI adversaries, etc; understanding I'm a tiny fish in a massive pool; it's still been 15 years since I've felt comfortable allowing external access through VPN into my home network (which has my NAS etc).
I have a friend who does, exposing his Synology NAS and Windows server through Ubiquiti UDR7 on Bell Gigahub, but honestly, I feel he's doing that more out of different risk assessment / "Little knowledge is a dangerous thing" rather than sheer expertise and assurance.
For those who allow VPN access from outside into your home network - how do you have confidence that your configuration is correct, you understand all the config options and their interplay on your modem/router/firewall/OS stack, you're up to date with vulnerabilities and permissions, trust the apps and containers, etc? Are you network admin during daytime, or have fully nerded out about it for years, or have a risk threshold that's met, or something else? :)
I thought about it, but then setting my phones and laptop up to use WireGuard automatically turned out to be easy and reliable enough to not need that.
Setting up WiFi once and being done with it is pretty nice. Especially with a large traveling party. Also, some devices are difficult to reconfigure, especially those without screens.
I use the UniFi travel router and it’s… ok? It is inexpensive and small and on paper a simple teleport to your home network. In practice it’s super unreliable. Turns out wifi is complicated.
People don't always have full control of their devices - I can't install arbitrary software on my work machine, for example, so a VPN back to my house isn't possible without a tool like this. This applies for appliances (eg, media streamer) where you can't install a VPN but want to access content from your home network.
There's other reasons too, such as not having to configure arbitrary wifi connections on your devices, as well as making sure there's zero traffic outside the VPN (eg, during the initial few seconds before an on-device VPN connects).
It would, but installing random vpn software on IT controlled hardware is a very much against policy
I also have to remember to turn the VPN on before I connect to the wifi, but only some wifis
Sure they are minor inconveniences, but configuring a device once and being confident I haven’t skipped a step or made a mistake and my network connection is secure - that’s a big deal for me.
And not just "against policy but unenforced and whatever" - for most large orgs I've been with, it's a serious, "conditions of employment" issue. There ARE innocent usages of personal VPN on work computer, but the risk and impact of the nefarious ones massively outweighs them.
I suppose if you've got a number of devices (phone, laptop, tablet), it's easier to enter Wi-Fi details and agree to any captive portal stuff once rather than three times.
I already nabbed my coupon for the pre-order last week - looks super cool!
My F0 is always close at hand, doing everything from being my go-to trigger for whatever random thing I'm playing with, to being an instant output for any signal I'm trying to read. Plus it's a really fun educational tool for myself and various kids around - I keep a load of little NFC 216 tags around, in my bag, in a pouch attached to my Mac, and showing both young and old how to use them, and read them with the phone, leads to conversations about treasure hunts, hiding them in the pub, showing counters with amusing messages...
We used it as a metronome the other day with its blue light, and on the flip side I've been looking at ways to integrate it into my EDC as a modern key, or a programmable keyring. It isn't super-secure, but that does make it easier to work with.
I'm excited about the F1, mainly curious about its logic analyzer capabilities, since I'm actually designing and building one - even it is fifty times worse than a commercial one, I just want to know how they work. And these little devices help find out how other things work.
I'm curious has anyone tried hooking up abliterated large language models to systems like this for physical pen-testing? I know there has been lots of hype lately on the capabilities of large language models at finding and exploiting bugs in online software. I know very little about physical pen-testing but would large language models also open up vulnerabilities in the kinds of things this interfaces with or do digital door locks and such have higher levels of security?
I think you're overcomplicating things a little bit. A better example of this would be like what I did recently, where I needed to change some non-user-accessible values on a device, could not get ahold of the firmware, and the spec sheets were all behind NDA walls. Instead, I opened it up and read the flash directly, thankfully it was unencrypted, and let deepseek pick it apart and give me a script to fuck with various values including the one I wanted to edit.
Basically like using a gameshark/game genie with extra steps.
I don't know about history of use of abliterated LLMs with this, but it is possible. Just under a year ago I developed a flipperzero-mcp with protobuf RPC over wifi (Flipper's wifi module).
A use of this is to load badusb attach it to target USB, get on a wifi as a proxy between your LLM and hardware target, with the LLM writing badusb scripts for terminal control.
I run a startup, InfiShark Tech, where we sell hardware for physical / wireless pentesting.
A new hardware and software product is in the works which will have this type of functionality, including KVM control + AI computer usage. We're aiming to get a Kickstarter out for it early 2027.
Yes, because technically there are already plenty of solutions out there that can do what the Flipper One does.
No, because Pavel (the guy behind F0 and F1) has explained what makes their approach different, especially when it comes to UX. They even built their own UI kit around their design principles. And what they do basically the level of detailization that nobody goes that deep.
They have done it once with Flipper Zero (many other solutions existed before F0), they do it now again.
I don't know about security devices specifically, but I have semi-successfully reverse engineered some abandoned IoT devices by giving DeepSeek and Claude access to a USB flash writer, logic analyzer and power relay for the devices.
I imagine they could be used to do physical pen testing just as easily. From my experience with digital door locks, their level of security is on average, somewhere between a piece of tape and a $5 padlock.
I have not, but I’ve been documenting heavily the process of the more difficult one I’ve been working on lately. I may use it as an excuse to start a blog.
I have one collecting dust that I stopped using years ago just because I got bored with it so if you wanna work together, I’m happy to. I’d love to see it get more use.
I think the new one might be better as you can run an agent or server on it and get llm to use it. With the old one you had to push buttons as I understand it?
I wish they would sell more replacement parts for the old ones. Like the main board or the sub boards.
I have broken mine twice from daily pocket use in wet environments and I don't feel like scrounging parts anymore.
Hmm, situational awareness of the local wireless environment? Like a travel router, but more?
Even when working from a fixed desk, I appreciate alternating desk work with strolling-thinking, when the environment permits it. Now, with incoming HMDs capable of laptop-like angular resolution, I've been exploring what an all-day NYC wander-and-pause setup/build might look like. Mobile local computes are easier now than they've ever been. Perhaps a SFF PC with multiple snap on MCIO/quick-disconnect-water GPUs+radiators? But agentic power demands... strolling with rolling battery luggage? Eep.
So perhaps ultra-light instead, a cloud PC, and always-on mobile networking to it? Multiplexing multiple cellular providers, and wifi? Perhaps with panel and cantennas. And... clueful juggling of the local wireless environment?
To get "for a better signal, I should walk along here rather than there"? Accumulating a personal neighborhood heat map? Or maybe "neat, in this weather, a cantenna gets library community wifi from across the river"? Or ...?
Wireless environment awareness has long seemed to me a fun concept, but with unclear use cases. It just now occurred to me this might be one? If not the Flipper One necessarily, something...
WiGLE WiFi is probably something you might find interesting, then. Or possibly Pwnagotchi if you're looking for a more specific use case, to which another comment has linked.
> Flipper One runs on completely open-source Linux firmware with a mainline kernel. This means ultimate compatibility with bleeding-edge kernel versions, free from vendor-specific BSP limitations and binary blobs.
How are they outperforming everyone else here? Even Raspberry Pi lags a little on mainline, to say nothing of the long tail of other SBCs (let alone Android devices)
But I'm guessing it's part Rockchip being more Linux-friendly than Broadcom and a group with a specific goal of a more open boot process. Or more simply, just different objectives or priorities than others in the space. And just to be clear, it's not as if they have everything working completely in vanilla Linux, they list peripherals or functions that aren't supported (NPU, video encoder, CSI).
Just last week I was trying to sell my Flipper Zero as I don't use it. Even though it's legal, my listings have been deleted as the platforms are overzealous as it "might be used for hacking".
Well, if anyone is looking for one in Europe, let me know.
This is not similar, it is more like a Flipper Zero replica with Wi-Fi. Flipper One is almost like an SBC with portability and "better" wireless capabilities.
Until the Kickstarter starts, which is planned for November. At which point you can redeem the coupon and back the Kickstarter and get it at a “special price” which is estimated to be $379 (might change up or down). Presumably this is lower than the Kickstarter price itself without the reservation coupon. A bit of a convoluted system, but you can get your $20 back anytime, and it automatically refunds if you don’t back the Kickstarter or the Kickstarter never launches, so that’s cool.
While I do agree it was/is weird, and it was/is hard to qualify, toy isn't the word I'd reach for. I find myself using it for some odd task once every few months. Cloning a keycard, temporarily standing in for a broken remote, etc. I'm glad I have it, but I was given it for free and I wouldn't pay for it.
When folks ask me what it is, my answer is 'an electronic Swiss Army knife', which is the best analogy I've been able to come up with so far. The Flipper Zero isn't necessary the best tool for any one specific job, but it's a really good tool for doing a lot of different jobs acceptably.
It's more of a "wireless swiss army knife", I think?
I've wanted a device that could for eg spoof itself as a USB device (I needed to boot linux and thought a computer instead of a pendrive would be cool) and went down a rabbit hole of the hardware requirements. I doubt the flipper (zero)'s processor could do that kind of work tbh.
> This new one is… yeah not sure. More of the same?
Not even. It's an ARM SBC in a weird case. The F0 was interesting because it had a bunch of oddball radio/IO peripherals; F1 doesn't seem to have anything comparable.
Same! I'll occasionally use it for something just to get stared down by an angry dolphin :/
(Most recently, to verify the microchip in our rescue)
It really bugged me that one of its selling features was the ability to open doors and gates and such, but it refused to open my garage door (which has an '80s pre-rolling-codes old fashioned signal, but it's within the standard bands) because of some FCC technicality. I heard there was some third-party firmware that enabled such things, but it made me wary that it might be illegal to install...
Also, this feels.. redundant, i already have those in my laptop, unlike flipper zero, it was about radio, rfid, nfc, ir, among others with great battery life. Right now my laptop i had it customized with modular 5g modem, SDR, meshcore, alfa, among others.
Flipper Zero is for the physical layer: radio, RFID, IR, etc... It is based on a small microcontroller and is mostly "bare metal", think Arduino, ESP32,...
Flipper One is for the network layer: Ethernet, Wi-Fi, 5G, etc... It is a "real computer" running Linux, like a Raspberry Pi.
In this document we introduce a new hardware-based tool for diagnosis
and repair of network related hardware and software problems. This
tool is best suited to addressing nondeterministic problems such as
those described above. This tool has broad areas of application at
all levels of the OSI model; in addition to uses in the physical,
network, transport and application layers, it has been used to
successfully address problems at the political and religious layers
as well.
flipper zero is just a small device with an SMT32 MCU,
flipper one is a whole bloody linux computer, with an rp2350
I suppose the idea is it combines workflows you'd use a flipper zero + pc for into one device.
Neat in idea, im not certain who it's truly for in practice. A flipper zero 2 with wifi built in and some minor improvements would have been much more welcome in my eyes.
I used it instead if needing to have a pocketful of access keys and garage/gate remotes. Also the remote control was great for random AC units or muting the sound on the airport lounge newsmax horror television.
but it broke too much and I found a better solution
Sorry...for the keys I got a very small chameleon ultra, fits on a keyring, the pocket toy has been replaced with a M5 cardputer which is better at being a real tool than flipper as it has all the sensor options.
The flipper was still a very nice thing to put in the pocket for along time for sure
The chameleon can get a clone one on Ali for much cheaper and depending on the revision better hardware. I like supporting the originals but in this case the difference is pretty big (cost/quality)
Cardputer has a new pi zero variant coming out this month that runs full Linux, half GB Ram only, but should be fun nonetheless
Chameleon claims this on their website about clones:
Why Clones Underperform
Stable RFID requires accurate timing and tuned antennas for perfect coupling.
Cloned devices compete on price. Reducing the price means using lower-quality components (less precise, wider tolerance), which results in poor performance. Likewise, lowering testing standards means a cloning factory has fewer rejects - but customers receive devices of unproven stability and performance.
Yeah, they should have included a comparison on the Kickstart page. If you check out the "we need your help" page, that has a chart with "Zero vs One":
Yeah, this is just a Linux computer. May as well get a raspi unless you particularly care about the form factor. Zero was the real interesting product.
Flipper was born in Moscow from a collab mostly made of Russians and Ukrainians. They were pretty outspoken against the attack on Ukraine and have moved headqurters and almost completely relocated their employees since then.
I'm mostly a NFC, RFID and SubGHZ guy so out of the box it does nothing useful for me without having to add external modules, my Zero on the other hand works great by itself except for once in a while plugging in the WiFi add-on board to debug some custom apps I've written for it.
I still stand by it. I'm not buying anything at these extortionist cartel prices. Not a single $500 usb thumb drive or $1500 ram or $2000 platter and certainly not at $400 thing that would have cost $100 last year.
I've traveled multiple times to the B in bric with mine without issue but that might have been before it got famous. Seems like Anatel confirmed they don't consider it homologated, and thus, technically illegal to import/sell there. Chances are it gets in but not out.
The flipper one is closer to a Raspberry pi, if the LoRa and Wifi are in homologated modules it would be perfectly legal to carry around. If not, it would be on the same rule of the zero and illegal.
“Multi-WAN network toolkit — connect up to 5 uplinks. Configure dynamic routing, failover, load balancing, and firewall rules. Use it simultaneously as a Wi‑Fi hotspot and client. Tunnel traffic through a VPN and multiple gateways. ”
I haven’t been able to find an off the shelf device that provides this. I travel a fair bit and when sitting in an airport mobile hotspotting is often unusably slow. If I can use this to securely connect to public unencrypted wifi, it will make travelling that little bit easier
* Dumb hotel policy wants you to pay a fee for every WiFi device you connect? Fine. I’m only connecting one.
* VPN back to my house for every device, including a Switch or ereader.
* Last weekend we were in a hotel with no LTE coverage and crummy WiFi. The Slate connected to the hotel WiFi much better than my phone or laptop could. It has better antennas and probably more power because it’s not optimized for battery life. My phone on WiFi: 2800ms pings (!!!). My phone connected to the Slate connected to the WiFi? 15ms.
It’s high on my packing list. I’ll never travel without one again.
I have a friend who does, exposing his Synology NAS and Windows server through Ubiquiti UDR7 on Bell Gigahub, but honestly, I feel he's doing that more out of different risk assessment / "Little knowledge is a dangerous thing" rather than sheer expertise and assurance.
For those who allow VPN access from outside into your home network - how do you have confidence that your configuration is correct, you understand all the config options and their interplay on your modem/router/firewall/OS stack, you're up to date with vulnerabilities and permissions, trust the apps and containers, etc? Are you network admin during daytime, or have fully nerded out about it for years, or have a risk threshold that's met, or something else? :)
An I missing something here?
I also have WireGuard on personal devices.
You just solved a big worry for me, thank you!
There's other reasons too, such as not having to configure arbitrary wifi connections on your devices, as well as making sure there's zero traffic outside the VPN (eg, during the initial few seconds before an on-device VPN connects).
Also we do need that option to reimage, we have a custom image that we install on each laptop. We don't use windows autopilot for reasons :P
I also have to remember to turn the VPN on before I connect to the wifi, but only some wifis
Sure they are minor inconveniences, but configuring a device once and being confident I haven’t skipped a step or made a mistake and my network connection is secure - that’s a big deal for me.
My F0 is always close at hand, doing everything from being my go-to trigger for whatever random thing I'm playing with, to being an instant output for any signal I'm trying to read. Plus it's a really fun educational tool for myself and various kids around - I keep a load of little NFC 216 tags around, in my bag, in a pouch attached to my Mac, and showing both young and old how to use them, and read them with the phone, leads to conversations about treasure hunts, hiding them in the pub, showing counters with amusing messages...
We used it as a metronome the other day with its blue light, and on the flip side I've been looking at ways to integrate it into my EDC as a modern key, or a programmable keyring. It isn't super-secure, but that does make it easier to work with.
I'm excited about the F1, mainly curious about its logic analyzer capabilities, since I'm actually designing and building one - even it is fifty times worse than a commercial one, I just want to know how they work. And these little devices help find out how other things work.
Basically like using a gameshark/game genie with extra steps.
A use of this is to load badusb attach it to target USB, get on a wifi as a proxy between your LLM and hardware target, with the LLM writing badusb scripts for terminal control.
Used the findings to release a jailbreak so you can program the cheap consumer version ($1.6k) as though it were the expensive research version ($15k)
Very fun exercise
https://github.com/a-bissell/UnLeash-Lite
A new hardware and software product is in the works which will have this type of functionality, including KVM control + AI computer usage. We're aiming to get a Kickstarter out for it early 2027.
Yes, because technically there are already plenty of solutions out there that can do what the Flipper One does.
No, because Pavel (the guy behind F0 and F1) has explained what makes their approach different, especially when it comes to UX. They even built their own UI kit around their design principles. And what they do basically the level of detailization that nobody goes that deep.
They have done it once with Flipper Zero (many other solutions existed before F0), they do it now again.
I imagine they could be used to do physical pen testing just as easily. From my experience with digital door locks, their level of security is on average, somewhere between a piece of tape and a $5 padlock.
But when I do actually need it, for doing something like reading/flashing SPI, I'm very happy I have it.
Flipper One – we need your help - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48220647 - May 2026 (482 comments)
Flipper One Tech Specs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48212046 - May 2026 (177 comments)
Even when working from a fixed desk, I appreciate alternating desk work with strolling-thinking, when the environment permits it. Now, with incoming HMDs capable of laptop-like angular resolution, I've been exploring what an all-day NYC wander-and-pause setup/build might look like. Mobile local computes are easier now than they've ever been. Perhaps a SFF PC with multiple snap on MCIO/quick-disconnect-water GPUs+radiators? But agentic power demands... strolling with rolling battery luggage? Eep.
So perhaps ultra-light instead, a cloud PC, and always-on mobile networking to it? Multiplexing multiple cellular providers, and wifi? Perhaps with panel and cantennas. And... clueful juggling of the local wireless environment?
To get "for a better signal, I should walk along here rather than there"? Accumulating a personal neighborhood heat map? Or maybe "neat, in this weather, a cantenna gets library community wifi from across the river"? Or ...?
Wireless environment awareness has long seemed to me a fun concept, but with unclear use cases. It just now occurred to me this might be one? If not the Flipper One necessarily, something...
How are they outperforming everyone else here? Even Raspberry Pi lags a little on mainline, to say nothing of the long tail of other SBCs (let alone Android devices)
https://docs.flipper.net/one/cpu-software/rk3576-mainlining
But I'm guessing it's part Rockchip being more Linux-friendly than Broadcom and a group with a specific goal of a more open boot process. Or more simply, just different objectives or priorities than others in the space. And just to be clear, it's not as if they have everything working completely in vanilla Linux, they list peripherals or functions that aren't supported (NPU, video encoder, CSI).
Well, if anyone is looking for one in Europe, let me know.
https://highboy.com.br/
While I do agree it was/is weird, and it was/is hard to qualify, toy isn't the word I'd reach for. I find myself using it for some odd task once every few months. Cloning a keycard, temporarily standing in for a broken remote, etc. I'm glad I have it, but I was given it for free and I wouldn't pay for it.
I've wanted a device that could for eg spoof itself as a USB device (I needed to boot linux and thought a computer instead of a pendrive would be cool) and went down a rabbit hole of the hardware requirements. I doubt the flipper (zero)'s processor could do that kind of work tbh.
Not even. It's an ARM SBC in a weird case. The F0 was interesting because it had a bunch of oddball radio/IO peripherals; F1 doesn't seem to have anything comparable.
https://flipper.net/pages/flipper-one
It really bugged me that one of its selling features was the ability to open doors and gates and such, but it refused to open my garage door (which has an '80s pre-rolling-codes old fashioned signal, but it's within the standard bands) because of some FCC technicality. I heard there was some third-party firmware that enabled such things, but it made me wary that it might be illegal to install...
only to find out nfc-b would never come
meh
Also, this feels.. redundant, i already have those in my laptop, unlike flipper zero, it was about radio, rfid, nfc, ir, among others with great battery life. Right now my laptop i had it customized with modular 5g modem, SDR, meshcore, alfa, among others.
Flipper Zero is for the physical layer: radio, RFID, IR, etc... It is based on a small microcontroller and is mostly "bare metal", think Arduino, ESP32,...
Flipper One is for the network layer: Ethernet, Wi-Fi, 5G, etc... It is a "real computer" running Linux, like a Raspberry Pi.
RFC 2321 suggests that they are "political and religious" layers. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2321/
I suppose the idea is it combines workflows you'd use a flipper zero + pc for into one device. Neat in idea, im not certain who it's truly for in practice. A flipper zero 2 with wifi built in and some minor improvements would have been much more welcome in my eyes.
but it broke too much and I found a better solution
The flipper was still a very nice thing to put in the pocket for along time for sure
Cardputer has a new pi zero variant coming out this month that runs full Linux, half GB Ram only, but should be fun nonetheless
https://blog.flipper.net/flipper-one-we-need-your-help/
The two devices are complementary.
this one does https://flipper.net/products/flipper-one-preorder
I still stand by it. I'm not buying anything at these extortionist cartel prices. Not a single $500 usb thumb drive or $1500 ram or $2000 platter and certainly not at $400 thing that would have cost $100 last year.
The flipper one is closer to a Raspberry pi, if the LoRa and Wifi are in homologated modules it would be perfectly legal to carry around. If not, it would be on the same rule of the zero and illegal.